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Siemens MS45 reads the following messages for operation, if the corresponding module is present in car:
Siemens MS45 reads the following messages for operation, if the corresponding module is present in car:
*[[CAN_Bus_ID_0x43F_EGS1|ARBID 0x43F EGS1 Automatic Transmission]]
*[[CAN_Bus_ID_0x43F_EGS1|ARBID 0x43F EGS1 Automatic Transmission]]
*[[CAN_Bus_ID_0x???_EGS2|ARBID 0x??? EGS2 Automatic Transmission]]
*[[CAN_Bus_ID_0x443_EGS2|ARBID 0x443 EGS2 Automatic Transmission]]
*[[CAN_Bus_ID_0x613_ICL2|ARBID 0x613 ICL2 Instrument Cluster]]
*[[CAN_Bus_ID_0x613_ICL2|ARBID 0x613 ICL2 Instrument Cluster]]
*[[CAN_Bus_ID_0x615_ICL3|ARBID 0x615 ICL3 Instrument Cluster]]
*[[CAN_Bus_ID_0x615_ICL3|ARBID 0x615 ICL3 Instrument Cluster]]

Latest revision as of 08:04, 23 April 2024

MS45 can operate in two different CAN bus modes. CAN11h and BN2000. This page describes the CAN11h mode that is used in e46, e83 and e85 versions of the MS45. MS43 and MS42 use same CAN11h protocol, but MS45 uses few more messages compared to those. CAN speed is 500kb/s.


Siemens MS45 reads the following messages for operation, if the corresponding module is present in car:


Siemens MS45 sends the following messages:


In addition to that, there are several messages that are not used by the ECU, but still present on the CAN Bus:


DME1 0x316

Refresh Rate: 10ms

  • Byte 0 - Bitfield
    • Bit 0 - LV_SWI_IGK
      Ignition Key Voltage State
      0 = terminal 15 off detected
      1 = terminal 15 on detected
    • Bit 1 - LV_F_N_ENG
      Crankshaft Sensor State
      0 = no CRK error present
      1 = CRK error present
    • Bit 2 - LV_ACK_TCS
      Traction Control State
      0 = either ASC1 was not received within the last 500 ms or it contains a plausibility error
      1 = the ASC message ASC1 was received within the last 500 ms and contains no plausibility errors of the requirements TQI_ASR_CAN / TQI_MSR_CAN
    • Bit 3 - LV_ERR_GC
      Gear Change Error State
      0 = gear change not or partly possible
      1 = gear change possible
    • Bit 4 - SF_TQD [0]
    • Bit 5 - SF_TQD [0]
      Charge Intervention State
      0 = the required intervention can be performed completely or if there is no ASC requirement.
      1 = the required intervention cannot be performed completely because the IGA retard limit is reached.
      2 = the required intervention cannot be performed completely because the charge actuators are fully closed (this case is not possible with MTC without break-away mechanism)
      3 = "limited vehicle dynamics" is active (MTC/ISA error)
    • Bit 6 - Unused
    • Bit 7 - LV_F_SUB_TQI
      MAF Error State
      0 = MAF ok
      1 = MAF error present
  • Byte 1 - TQI_TQR_CAN
    Indexed Engine Torque in % of C_TQ_STND (including ASR/MSR/ETCU/LIM/AMT/GEAR intervention)
    Calculation = HEX * 0.39
  • Byte 2 - N_ENG [LSB]
  • Byte 3 - N_ENG [MSB]
    Engine Speed in rpm
    Calculation = ((HEX[MSB] * 256) + HEX[LSB]) * 0.15625
  • Byte 4 - TQI_CAN
    Indicated Engine Torque in % of C_TQ_STND (based on PVS, N, AMP, TIA ,TCO, IGA, PUC so ip_tqi_pvs__n__pvs)
    Calculation = HEX * 0.39
  • Byte 5 - TQ_LOSS_CAN
    Engine Torque Loss (due to engine friction, AC compressor and electrical power consumption) in % of C_TQ_STND
    Calculation = HEX * 0.39
  • Byte 6 - Bitfield
    • Bit 6 - ERR_AMT_CAN
    • Bit 7 - ERR_AMT_CAN
  • Byte 7 - TQI_MAF_CAN
    Theorethical Engine Torque in % of C_TQ_STND after charge intervention (based on MAF & IGA so ip_tqi_maf__n__maf)
    Calculation = HEX * 0.39

DME2 0x329

Refresh Rate: 10ms

  • Byte 0 - Multiplexed Information
    • Bit 0 - MUX_INFO [0]
    • Bit 1 - MUX_INFO [1]
    • Bit 2 - MUX_INFO [2]
    • Bit 3 - MUX_INFO [3]
    • Bit 4 - MUX_INFO [4]
    • Bit 5 - MUX_INFO [5]
      CAN_LEVEL = CAN bus function level. This is always 0x11 for MS43
      OBD_STEUER = STATE_DIAG_GS (Status of GS diagnosis for feedback to gearbox)
      MD_NORM = Refactored C_TQ_STND from 0x3FF (0-1023Nm) to 0x3F (0-1008Nm) with decreased resolution of 16Nm
    • Bit 6 - MUX_CODE [0]
    • Bit 7 - MUX_CODE [1]
      0 = CAN_LEVEL
      2 = OBD_STEUER
      3 = MD_NORM
  • Byte 1 - TEMP_ENG
    Engine (Coolant) Temperature in °C
    Calculation = (HEX * 0.75) - 48°C
    Init: 0xFF
    Min: 0x01 (-48°C)
    Max: 0xFF (142.5°C)
  • Byte 2 - AMP_CAN
    Ambient Pressure in hPa
    Calculation = (HEX * 2) + 598hPa
    Init = 0x00
    Min = 0x01 (600hPa)
    Max = 0xFE (1106hPa)
    Error = 0xFF
  • Byte 3 - Bitfield
    • Bit 0 - LV_SWI_CLU
      Clutch Switch State
      0 = released
      1 = depressed
    • Bit 1 - LV_LEVEL_IS
      Idle Regulator State
      0 = idle above threshold
      1 = idle below threshold
    • Bit 2 - LV_ACK_CRU_AD_ECU
      Acknowledge of ACC1 CAN Message
      0 = nACK
      1 = ACK
    • Bit 3 - LV_ERU_CAN
      Engine Running State
      0 = engine stopped
      1 = engine running
    • Bit 4 - (STATE_CRU_CAN)???
    • Bit 5 - STATE_MSW_CAN [0]
    • Bit 6 - STATE_MSW_CAN [1]
    • Bit 7 - STATE_MSW_CAN [2]
      0 = No Button Pressed (Init Value)
      1 = Set / Acceleration (tip-up)
      2 = Deceleration (tip-down)
      3 = Resume
      4 = Deactivate (I/O)
      7 = Error Condition
  • Byte 4 - TPS_VIRT_CRU_CAN
    Calculation = HEX * 0.390625
  • Byte 5 - TPS_CAN
    Accelerator Pedal Position in % of PVS_MAX
    Calculation = HEX * 0.390625
    Init = 0x00
    Min = 0x01 (0%)
    Max = 0xFE (99.2%)
    PVS Error = 0xFF
  • Byte 6 - Bitfield
    • Bit 0 - LV_BS
      Brake Switch State
      0 = brake not actuated
      1 = brake actuated
    • Bit 1 - LV_ERR_BS
      Brake Switch System State
      0 = brake switch system OK
      1 = brake switch system faulty
    • Bit 2 - LV_KD_CAN
      Kick Down State
      0 = kick down not active
      1 = kick down active
    • Bit 3 - STATE_CRU_CAN [0]
    • Bit 4 - STATE_CRU_CAN [1]
    • Bit 5 - STATE_CRU_CAN [2]
      0 = LV_CRU_ACT = 0
      1 = LV_CRU_ACT = 1, constant drive (or tip-up / tip-down)
      3 = LV_CRU_ACT = 1, resume
      5 = LV_CRU_ACT = 1, set / acceleration
      7 = LV_CRU_ACT = 1, deceleration
    • Bit 6 - REQ_SHIFTLOCK [0]
    • Bit 7 - REQ_SHIFTLOCK [1]
      0 = no actuation is active
      3 = actuation ISA, MTC or N_SP_IS is active
  • Byte 7 - Unused

DME3 0x338

Refresh Rate: 1000ms and at signal change

  • Byte 0 - Unused
  • Byte 1 - Unused
  • Byte 2 - STATE_SOF_CAN
    Sport Button Status
    0 = Sport Button On (requested by SMG)
    1 = Sport Button Off
    2 = Sport Button On
    3 = Sport Button Error
    Init: 0x01
  • Byte 3 - Unused
  • Byte 4 - Unused
  • Byte 5 - Unused
  • Byte 6 - Unused
  • Byte 7 - Unused

DME4 0x545

Refresh Rate: 10ms

  • Byte 0 - Bitfield
    • Bit 0 - Unused
    • Bit 1 - LV_MIL - Check Engine Light
    • Bit 2 - Unused
    • Bit 3 - LV_MAIN_SWI_CRU - CRU_MAIN_SWI
    • Bit 4 - LV_ETC_DIAG - EML Light
    • Bit 5 - Unused
    • Bit 6 - LV_FUC_CAN - Fuel Tank Cap Light
    • Bit 7 - Unused
  • Byte 1 - FCO[LSB]
  • Byte 2 - FCO[MSB]
    Fuel Consumption
  • Byte 3 - Bitfield
    • Bit 0 - Oil Level Indicator LED - Oil consumption
    • Bit 1 - Oil Level Indicator LED - Oil loss
    • Bit 2 - Oil Level Indicator LED - Sensor malfunction
    • Bit 3 - LV_TEMP_ENG - Coolant Overheating Light (c_tco_tmot_sta)
    • Bit 4 - M-Cluster Warm-Up LEDs
    • Bit 5 - M-Cluster Warm-Up LEDs
    • Bit 6 - M-Cluster Warm-Up LEDs
    • Bit 7 - Upshift indicator
  • Byte 4 - TOIL_CAN
    Oil Temperature in °C
    Calculation = HEX - 48°C
    Min: 0x00 (-48°C)
    Max: 0xFE (206°C)
  • Byte 5 - Bitfield
    • Bit 0 - Battery Chargelight (Alpina Roadster Only)
    • Bit 1 - Unused
    • Bit 2 - Unused
    • Bit 3 - Unused
    • Bit 4 - Unused
    • Bit 5 - Unused
    • Bit 6 - Unused
    • Bit 7 - Unused
  • Byte 6 - Oil Level (MSS54HP only)
    Calculation = (HEX - 158) / 10L
    Min: 0x80 || 0xC0 (-3.0L)
    Max: 0xBE || 0xFE (+3.2L)
  • Byte 7 - Bitfield
    • Bit 0 - State Tire Pressure (MSS54 only)
    • Bit 1 - Unused
    • Bit 2 - Unused
    • Bit 3 - Unused
    • Bit 4 - Unused
    • Bit 5 - Unused
    • Bit 6 - Unused
    • Bit 7 - Status Engine Oil Pressure Low